Here's bits of an interview I did recently with Christopher Blackwell of the Alternative Religions Education Network (aren.org)
Christopher: Father could you give us a bit of back ground about you?
I'm a dad, I write books, I'm a dog person. I live on a tiny artist-colony island in the Pacific Northwest. And I'm a Gnostic priest. I'm a Jungian, and that bias is reflected in most of the artifacts of my activity. My background is in advertising; I used to teach film school, and I lived briefly in Brazil in the dot com era. So I go from suit-and-tie business meetings to clericals to gumboots pretty readily, although most days it's beaches and gumboots.
Christopher: Your spiritual life have taken a great many paths to get where you are now, some which might be considered more spiritual than others, some perhaps more magical. Could you give our readers a bit of what paths that you followed, perhaps how one lead to another?
I identified with the word "witch" from an early age, in the archetypal sense of seeing and working in the borders of experience. The witch is a liminal figure, between life and death, between the village and the wild wood, between waking consciousness and dreaming. I've always felt very free in such spaces, creatively and spiritually.
What I came to realize is that in the 19th and 20th centuries, this was largely a literary construct formed in response to anti-clericalism from the French Revolution. So it's been poets, the Romantics and Symbolists and Decadents, who sought the witch archetype, and enshrined her, and brought her center-stage. The core of that approach and presentation was laid in the Renaissance revival of Neoplatonism and Hermeticism, due to availability of translation. The witch's aesthetic, via Goya and Shakespeare, was still rooted in this practical and academic Renaissance exploration of classical mysticism.
Going back further, we see these communities of Hellenized (Greek speaking, Greek educated, toga-wearing) Jews, living in Alexandra around 200 BCE. Much of the Greek magical papyri which resurfaced in the Renaissance and kicked off the whole "witch" thing originated in these communities, and there's a tremendous overlap between these Orphic cults and the Gnostics, in terms of their vernacular, aims and aesthetic. So, honestly, I took a time machine from 1970s neo-Paganism to 200 BCE Gnosticism.
Jung, too, looked to root his work to the Gnostics, and spent a great deal of research into identifying a ligature between their world and his own. Eventually he seized on the Alchemists as the bridge between classical Gnosticism and modernity. Following Jung, I've spent a great deal of time in the alchemical milieu.
Christopher: Is there any ties between what we think as spiritually and magick?
In my experience that excreted "k" never fails to endumben the conversation. I could kick Crowley, I really could.
I think a more apt word, if we're afraid to talk about magic, is theurgy. Wonder-working. Things like banishing demons and turning wine into the blood of God. So of course there's a tie; there's never not been a tie. Theurgy, whether it's the transubstantiation of the Eucharist or the summoning of angelic blessings, has always been the practical application of spirituality. So too, ultimately, I think, are great works of art, when they are rooted in spiritual enthusiasm and mindfulness. We are all of us constantly engaged in the wonder-working of kindness, of compassion, of charity. And I find that fascinating and marvellous, this innate and expressed priesthood of ordinary people. It's lovely. That's Sophia, Wisdom, blossoming into flower in the daily lives of absolutely everybody. I find that miraculous.
Christopher: So what led you to train for the ministry and how did you find the Apostolic Johannite Church. Could you tell us a bit about this Gnostic Christian Church.
Well, Gnosticism hangs its hat on the maxim "know thyself". This knowledge, or naked self-knowledge, is the "insight" to which the term gnosis best equates. Such an objective and world-view is the crux of what's been called the "perennial philosophy", and has always been around, expressing itself in such things as Qabalah and alchemy and various societies. We can blame Plato and Pythagoras for almost all of this stuff.
In 1804, Napoleon's doctor claims to come across a medieval copy of a dark-ages copy of an ancient copy of the Gospel of John. In this version, John, with his obviously Platonic leaning and high Christology (Christ as manifest God, less about the person of Jesus), is the heir of Christ, and not Peter. Also there is no resurrection narrative, and Jesus is said to have studied his wonder-working in Egypt. Well, that implies that this is something study-able, learnable. The good doctor uses this text to reboot the early Church of John, the Johannite Church. Now, there have been survivors of this Church and this idea from antiquity to the present age; the Mandaeans of Iraq, and to a lesser extent the Druze of Israel, medieval French Cathars, and Chinese Manichaeanism, although the latter's a bit of a stretch. Regardless, the doctor's Church gains valid, apostolic succession from the Archbishop of Haiti, and ticks along as a kind of parallel Catholicism, protected by Napoleon, who was mad about Egypt, and liked having something with which to annoy the Pope.
If you're familiar with Gerard Encausse, or "Papus", who was an esoteric mover and shaker of the late 19th century, he was a Gnostic bishop and Martinist who worked very hard at maintaining vitality in this tradition. One can draw a line from Encausse to the Golden Dawn or Wicca or any other expression of 20th century freakiness you choose.
Well, Independent Catholics tend to be an incestuous lot, so all manner of Indie Cath churches have this lineage, this heritage, via cross-pollination and "sub-conditione ordination" which is an elaborate game of tag played by men in large pointy hats. Honestly, while some claim exclusivity to some thread or another, we all have one another's family tree. The Apostolic Johannite Church, however, makes this particular strand in the tapestry its main focus of inquiry and spiritual work. This Johannite Tradition is the stuff we show up for.
The Church has a four year seminary program, which is reflected in the traditional Minor Order rites of the Church. It's academic in emphasis but there are practical aspects as well, manifesting in volunteering, chaplaincy, hospice, prison ministry, what have you. We're very old-school; we employ the seven sacraments of Western tradition, but with an esoteric ("deeper"), alchemical understanding. You can bring your granny to Mass. But if you've some experience in the Western Mystery Tradition, you'll catch on pretty quick as to how we're doing what we're doing and why.
Christopher: For our readers could you tell me some things about the Gnostics? First where do they come from and how do they relate to Jews and Christians?
What we now called Gnostics were individual, separate, and arguing communities of Greek-educated Jews living in Ancient Egypt down the block from the temple of Isis, on the doorstep of the Roman Empire, 2200 years ago. They were writing Plato fan-fiction, and influenced the origins of Christianity by writing Christian fan-fiction. They revelled in myth and metaphor and simile and jazz-riffed off each other's ideas, joyously pillaging the intellectual heritage of the classical world. They were beat poets who figured out that we're all imprisoned by forces who wish only power and our submission, and the Gnostics were planning a jail-break through wit and intuition and creativity and love and cipher.
What St. Paul called "the powers and principalities"of this world were identified by the Gnostics as destructive, limiting, cruel patterns of behaviour and institution, and they sought to supplant this authority with direct, mind-blowing personal encounter with unconditional love. So this embraced the Jewish love of learning and literature with the Greek's bias towards evidence and logic, and later the Christian myth of the triumph of love over death. And they hit purée.
Christopher: Christianity went in many different ways in the beginning, but then there became a fight over its future. Wasn't there an attempt to wipe out the Gnostics? Did any of it survive and, if so, how?
There wasn't, really, an attempt to wipe out the Gnostics. We fell into disfavour. Gnostic texts became unfashionable. It wasn't so much a persecution as a devaluing. Gnostics weren't martyred so much as we were either assimilated or ignored. But this did allow a Gnostic current to survive and flourish within orthodoxy. Every Christian mystic and Orthodox hesychast tapped into the Gnostic vein. St. John of the Cross, St. Francis, St. Julian of Norwich, St. Hildegaard, all finding gnosis, championing it, and embodying it. The grail romances are a cipher for Gnosticism. And, again, of course, alchemy and Renaissance Hermeticism. We hid in plain sight.
The exception is of course the Albigensian Crusade. This was a war between Roman-influenced French forces to crush the blatantly Gnostic heresy of what is now southern France. It was a bloodbath, more political and territorial in nature than religious, as these things always are, but it did drive underground an authentic, contiguous Gnostic culture in Europe in the thirteenth century.
Christopher: Do the ideas of the Gnostics influence the development of Christianity and western civilization?
This is a very complex issue, but the brief answer is yes. Archaeologically, the first Gospel we have is John. It wasn't written first, but it's the first we have any scrap of, the first we have mention of. And John was written in two distinct, phases; a Gnostic phase, and a we-kicked-the-Gnostics-out phase. According to scholars such as Dr. Bruce Chilton, that second phase was edited to refute ideas presented in the über-Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. And according to Dr. Elaine Pagels, parts of Thomas were written to address ideas written in The Gospel of Mary. So in this way, we see Christian canonical texts transforming themselves to refute or clarify Gnostic ideas.
Christopher: When does Gnostic ideas begin to become popular again? What discoveries have helped it along?
We've always had bits and pieces of Gnostic literature, philosophy, liturgy. In fact the first Christian theological texts were written by those we now identify as Gnostics. But it's been fragmentary, with much conjecture. In 1945, in Egypt, a jar was discovered with a number of codices, books as opposed to scrolls, chock-full of Gnostic literature. This was a massive game-changer in terms of scholarship. Rather than the radical world-hating dualists of anti-Gnostic propagandists, Gnostics spoke with their own voice for the first time in 1600 years. And what they were saying was affirming, beautiful, exotic, rich, nuanced, considered, and lovely. We now had complete – or more complete – texts of which we'd only had clues or snippets or misquotes from those who wished we'd just shut up and go away. Having access to primary source texts was an unimaginable gift of grace.
Christopher: What are you hopes for future of Gnosticism?
I have a thousand archaeological questions I'd love answered, out of my own curiosity. But I really don't have a desire for us to be anything other than what we are: a community of sincere seekers pursuing a solemn, quiet, traditional path; accepting, embracing, creating, questioning. It wouldn't bother me if our numbers shrank to 10% of what they are now. We don't convert, we don't proselytize. We do what we do. We know what we know. We love what we love. We abide in gnosis, and, in doing so, we endure. The door is open, and the light is on.
Christopher: Anything else that you would like our readers to know?
"Hearken to the Logos, understand Gnosis, love life." – The Secret Book of James. I can't do any better than that.










